Ticket #1633083

Jeremy, Would you be able to get me that updated quote we discussed at the SMTAI Expo? Thanks! Best Regards, Henry D. Zimmerman, CSMTPE Process Automation Engineer [email] E: [email] P: [phone] | M: [phone] [A red and blue logo Description automatically generated][A black and white x logo Description automatically generated] [A blue square with white letters Description automatically generated] [Facebook - Free social media icons] RANKED #1 BY QUALITY MAGAZINE AS A QUALITY LEADERSHIP 100 COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - This email and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be used only by the intended recipient. If you have received this by mistake, please notify us by return e-mail, then delete. From: [email] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 4:29 PM To: Henry Zimmerman ; [email] [email] Cc: [email] [email] [email] Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library CAUTION: This email originated from an EXTERNAL SENDER. Please use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. Hi Henry, My apologies for the delay. Please see attached. Thanks! Best Regards, Eric McElmurry [This is Eric McElmurry's card. Their email is [email] Their phone number is +[phone].] From: Henry Zimmerman > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 3:13 PM To: Jeremy Orbach / OEI >; AOISupport-US-A > Cc: Eric McElmurry / OEI >; Brian Andersen / OEI >; Brad Ward / OEI >; Francisco Villalpando / OEI > Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library I am just following up on the request for a quote for the following. Day 1: Polarity root cause analysis, set up standard operating procedure related to permanently resolve issue Days 2 - 3: Level 3 AOI Optimization Training - focus on optimizing variance upstream identified by AI Best Regards, Henry D. Zimmerman, CSMTPE Process Automation Engineer [email] E: [email] P: [phone] | M: [phone] [A red and blue logo Description automatically generated][A black and white x logo Description automatically generated] [A blue square with white letters Description automatically generated] [Facebook - Free social media icons] RANKED #1 BY QUALITY MAGAZINE AS A QUALITY LEADERSHIP 100 COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - This email and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be used only by the intended recipient. If you have received this by mistake, please notify us by return e-mail, then delete. From: Henry Zimmerman Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 9:35 AM To: [email] ; [email] Cc: [email] ; [email] ; [email] ; [email] Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library Jeremy, That should be sufficient. I would like a quote to present to Sean O’Day. Best Regards, Henry D. Zimmerman, CSMTPE Process Automation Engineer [email] E: [email] P: [phone] | M: [phone] [A red and blue logo Description automatically generated][A black and white x logo Description automatically generated] [A blue square with white letters Description automatically generated] [Facebook - Free social media icons] RANKED #1 BY QUALITY MAGAZINE AS A QUALITY LEADERSHIP 100 COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - This email and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be used only by the intended recipient. If you have received this by mistake, please notify us by return e-mail, then delete. From: [email] > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 9:09 AM To: Henry Zimmerman >; [email] Cc: [email] ; [email] ; [email] ; [email] Subject: Re: Correcting Part Rotations in Library CAUTION: This email originated from an EXTERNAL SENDER. Please use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. Henry, The optimization training is a new offering from the AOI group related to utilizing the built-in optimization tool. The process of building and tuning programs changes as a result of this process, as much of the limit setting becomes automated. As discussed, our early tests are indicating a savings of 50% in tuning time for new products, and an output that can be optimized around. The goal of this training is to provide a faster method to get to outputs of value that can be utilized for optimization at the printer / pick & place machine. Our customers currently following this process are able to eliminate most of their systemic issues related to solder, resulting in a lower call-out rate at AOI and fewer real defects. Please let me know if this is sufficient. Best regards, Jeremy [This is Jeremy Orbach's card. Their email is [email] Their email is [email] Their phone number is +[phone].] ________________________________ From: Henry Zimmerman > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 7:14 AM To: Jeremy Orbach / OEI >; AOISupport-US-A > Cc: Eric McElmurry / OEI >; Brian Andersen / OEI >; Brad Ward / OEI >; Francisco Villalpando / OEI > Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library Jeremy, Please provide more information on the optimization training. I will also need a quote for the three days onsite including any cost associated with the training. The head count for the training will likely be 3 people, maybe 4. Is that okay? Thanks! Best Regards, Henry D. Zimmerman, CSMTPE Process Automation Engineer [email] E: [email] P: [phone] | M: [phone] [A red and blue logo Description automatically generated][A black and white x logo Description automatically generated] [A blue square with white letters Description automatically generated] [Facebook - Free social media icons] RANKED #1 BY QUALITY MAGAZINE AS A QUALITY LEADERSHIP 100 COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - This email and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be used only by the intended recipient. If you have received this by mistake, please notify us by return e-mail, then delete. From: [email] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2025 3:29 PM To: Henry Zimmerman >; [email] Cc: [email] ; [email] ; [email] ; [email] Subject: Re: Correcting Part Rotations in Library CAUTION: This email originated from an EXTERNAL SENDER. Please use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. Henry, Thank you for taking the time to discuss your polarity issues with me. As discussed, I believe an on-site training broken down into the following would be most effective: Day 1: Polarity root cause analysis, set up standard operating procedure related to permanently resolve issue Days 2 - 3: Level 3 AOI Optimization Training - focus on optimizing variance upstream identified by AI A member of our management team can provide a quote for these services. I completed validation of the optimization function related to 3.04C and can confirm the training can be completed without upgrade. I can provide additional details on the optimization training if desired. Best regards, Jeremy [This is Jeremy Orbach's card. Their email is [email] Their email is [email] Their phone number is +[phone].] ________________________________ From: Henry Zimmerman > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2025 1:39 PM To: Jeremy Orbach / OEI >; Jeremiah Soliz / OEI >; Tim Anderson / OEI >; AOISupport-US-A > Cc: Eric McElmurry / OEI > Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library Jeremy, I would like to have a chat regarding both subjects. When you have a chance, give me a call on my cell. Thanks! Best Regards, Henry D. Zimmerman, CSMTPE Process Automation Engineer [email] E: [email] P: [phone] | M: [phone] [A red and blue logo Description automatically generated][A black and white x logo Description automatically generated] [A blue square with white letters Description automatically generated] [Facebook - Free social media icons] RANKED #1 BY QUALITY MAGAZINE AS A QUALITY LEADERSHIP 100 COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - This email and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be used only by the intended recipient. If you have received this by mistake, please notify us by return e-mail, then delete. From: [email] > Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2025 11:16 PM To: Henry Zimmerman >; [email] ; [email] ; [email] Cc: [email] Subject: Re: Correcting Part Rotations in Library CAUTION: This email originated from an EXTERNAL SENDER. Please use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. Henry, May I suggest you use the P&P data to rebuild your library? This must be accurate otherwise you would not be able to product without many polarity defects. We also have launched a level 3 advanced training for AOI with early results showing 50+% reduction in tuning time. This is offered both on-site and virtually. We can dive into both at the same time if desired. Best regards, Best regards, Jeremy Orbach Application Engineer – Inspection Systems Direct: [phone] | [email] Omron Automation Americas 2895 Greenspoint Parkway, Suite 100, Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 automation.omron.com ________________________________ From: Henry Zimmerman > Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2025 12:33:00 PM To: Jeremiah Soliz / OEI >; Tim Anderson / OEI >; AOISupport-US-A > Cc: Eric McElmurry / OEI > Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library Jeremiah, Thanks for the feedback. When I was programming the Omron S730 at a previous employer, we would use the centroid data that was exported from the placement machines to ensure that the theta rotations were standardize for all components. This made the pad extraction process for established component inspection packages almost fully automated during the Omron cad import. Due to shared component part numbers across many different customers and the use of customer supplied centroid files there is currently no standard . This requires us to fix many rotations and pad extractions manually which can be very time consuming. This negatively affects the speed of releasing the program to production. I would like to work toward setting a standard to eliminate this. Best Regards, Henry D. Zimmerman, CSMTPE Process Automation Engineer [email] E: [email] P: [phone] | M: [phone] [A red and blue logo Description automatically generated][A black and white x logo Description automatically generated] [A blue square with white letters Description automatically generated] [Facebook - Free social media icons] RANKED #1 BY QUALITY MAGAZINE AS A QUALITY LEADERSHIP 100 COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE - This email and any attachments may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be used only by the intended recipient. If you have received this by mistake, please notify us by return e-mail, then delete. From: [email] > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2025 3:57 PM To: [email] ; [email] Cc: Henry Zimmerman >; [email] Subject: RE: Correcting Part Rotations in Library CAUTION: This email originated from an EXTERNAL SENDER. Please use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding. Hi Henry, Thanks for the detailed message and screenshot. You're absolutely right that correcting the rotation across existing programs and libraries can quickly become a major undertaking — and may introduce more risk than benefit if not handled carefully. It sounds like your team may be starting to “fix” centroid rotation values internally, which is understandable, but can cause significant rework either way. Especially since many of these rotations came from generic customer-provided centroid files, there's often no consistent standard — and more importantly, the Japanese rotation standard used in our software differs from the IPC-style 0°, 90°, 180°, 270° convention you might be referencing. That’s why we often recommend ignoring the red rotation arrow shown in the viewer — it's not an indicator of polarity, but rather how the rotation data was interpreted when the part was added. Instead, the best practice is to define each component visually when it’s added to the library — using silkscreen markings and pin 1 references — and focus on setting up the proper OCR/OCV and polarity inspections based on how the part actually appears on the board. If you go back and start rotating parts now to match a corrected centroid list, you risk invalidating those visual inspections, especially OCR images, which are rotation-dependent. That introduces a real risk of false calls or missed defects. We had a recent case with another customer who ran into the same issue — they were comparing updated centroid data to older programs and noticed all their angles were off by a consistent value (e.g., ±90°). Rather than modifying the library, they created a simple script to adjust all the rotations in the centroid file before import, aligning them with the expected part orientations already present in their inspection library. That way, they preserved all their existing inspection logic and avoided disrupting OCR/OCV setups. If you feel a reset is needed, another option would be to start fresh with a new master library. But keep in mind, that would mean redefining every part from scratch — including all inspection settings — so it’s generally not the first path we recommend unless absolutely necessary. My two cents, @AOISupport-US-A have any other input? Please advise ? [This is Jeremiah Soliz's card. Their email is [email] Their phone number is +[phone].] From: Tim Anderson / OEI > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2025 4:39 PM To: AOISupport-US-A > Cc: Henry Zimmerman >; Eric McElmurry / OEI > Subject: FW: Correcting Part Rotations in Library AOI Team, Please see the support request from Henry at Tecnova below: Tim [This is Tim Anderson's card. Their email is [email] Their phone number is +[phone].] From: Henry Zimmerman > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2025 3:24 PM To: Tim Anderson / OEI >; Brian Andersen / OEI > Subject: Correcting Part Rotations in Library Tim, Per our phone conversation, I have a question regarding component centroid rotations associated with inspections in the existing programs and library. It appears that Tecnova’s established programs are not using any type of rotation standard. In most cases, the programs were established using generic centroid files provided by the customer. Is there a way to correct the rotation and reticles (captioned below) without affecting the inspection in the programs and/or master library? I realize, no matter what I do, there will be a lot of work involved taking care of one or the other. Anything that could make it less painful would be much appreciated. [email] Best Regards, Henry D. 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